PODCAST: How Badly Do You Want It?

Well that was kind of all over the place, but we think there was some pretty good stuff in this episode! Whether you're a woman, a mom or an entrepreneur, there are going to be things in here that are relatable to you, because in all honesty, each of those roles are parallel to one another.



  • From a business perspective, I think you can get really lost in what people tell you - in the conversations and the advice. So much of what we want to hear is what the right answer is, because it's so hard to listen to yourself and make a gut decision. But in those moments where you take a risk and you "fail," that's part of learning, growing and understanding.

  • Through experiences of failing, we've come to understand that if we tried it and it didn't work, we'd modify it and go back and try again. It didn't deter us, but we also didn't beat the dead horse.


  • The expectations are so f*cked between men and women, and husbands and wives. I really think we married the wrong generation. I feel like we're raising our kids to understand that it's not women who have one job and men who have another - you're a team. This millennial generation is the beginning of something great, because the pressures that men and women face are now going to be shared.

  • The mental load that men and women carry are so different. I will never get over the mental load of motherhood, and the fact that no one talks about it.

  • Motherhood and entrepreneurship are parallel to each other. All moms should be entrepreneurs because we are professional problem-solvers. There is no problem that's not solvable - it's just how you look at it.


  • There are some things we can't control, and we understand that. If it doesn't work out then it wasn't meant to be.

  • The reason we don't see failure is because it's a stepping stone for us. Life gives you situations so that you can grow, because if you were given what you wanted right away, it might not be the right time. For us, nothing ever comes right away, we have to take baby steps and we have to do the work to get to where we want to go.

  • There is no "no" - if we really want it, "no" is not an option. But not only do you have to want it, you have to figure out how to go about it and how far you're willing to go for it.

  • Think of your reason why, but don't let your ego be the reason why.

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